Doberman Digest ads by Leslie Hall pajant@aol.com

Dam:  Logres' Brentina is a line bred daughter of the Top Winning Doberman of All Time -Multi BIS Ch. Brunswig's Cryptonite.  Brentina is a littermate of Ch. Logres' Tungsten and Ch. Logres Titanium.

                Brentina and her littermates:                                          

Ch. Logres’ Tungsten   (red dog)                    OFA EXCELLENT                                       DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Ch. Logres’  Titanium (red dog )                    OFA GOOD                                                  DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Brentano (red dog )                            OFA EXCELLENT                                       DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Brentina (red bitch )                            OFA GOOD                                                 DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Morgan Le Fay (red bitch)               

Logres' Charisma of Juris (red bitch)            DNA vWD Carrier                                    

Logres’ You're It (fawn dog)  not tested

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With respect to the health testing sometimes seen in stud dog ads, we object to health related data that gives the misleading impression that the data relates to what the stud dog will transmit.  

For example, a normal Holter monitor result of your dog belongs in the context of whether you intend to medicate your dog, NOT in the context of breeding. An asymptomatic dog may still be passing on DCM and to suggest otherwise is misleading and ultimately a disservice to the breed. It’s fine to Holter your dogs, and any data suggesting heritable heart problems should be available to breeders, but a normal / clear Holter result does not say what the stud dog will transmit; asymptomatic dogs can pass on DCM.  Many asymptomatic dogs have gone on to develop DCM and asymptomatic dogs can  transmit DCM (because of incomplete penetrance). 

Let’s say that you have a six year old dog with a normal / clear Holter ... the owner advertises these results... the breeder thinks “Wonderful, no DCM ” and  breeds to the dog.  Then, 6 months later,  the dog dies of DCM. One could make the argument that the advertising is misleading.  Moreover, a two year-old stud dog with a normal or clear Holter is like a teenage boy with a normal PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen) or a colonoscopy on a 20 year old.  Neither the PSA or the colonoscopy will tell you if the boy will develop prostate or colon cancer.

If you are interested in a Logres puppy from an upcoming Logres litter please contact us at arthurgreenwood@hotmail.com. 

      Logres is committed to breeding  healthy sound Dobermans of excellent breed type, who exemplify the great attributes of this wonderful breed. Our dogs are happy, loving, confident, athletic ambassadors for the Doberman breed. In  addition to having superb bloodlines, our dogs are generally healthy,  with good substance and bone and strong stable Doberman temperaments.  Though we strive to produce extraordinary quality and would like to see our puppies in the ring, we are not interested in show homes per se.  As with any good breeder, we try to screen puppy buyers to assure the best possible homes for our puppies.   Sometimes we have been successful in finding good homes for our puppies; sometimes we have failed utterly (and excellent dogs have been ruined by the ignorance and/or  arrogance of bad owners).   There is really no sure way to predict with certainty  the quality of life a potential purchaser will provide.    

      However, as a baseline, we will no longer sell to people who “collect dogs”  and/or people who raise their dogs in crates and dog runs.  We prefer owners who focus on one or two dogs at a time and who understand the value of a fit healthy lifestyle for themselves and their dogs. 

      Purchasing a dog is NOT like buying a new television… where all you have to do is pay a sum of money, open a box, plug the T.V. in and it is a “perfect working machine.” 

       Dogs are living creatures.  They require love and attention. They need our time, commitment, guidance, consistency and discipline to thrive. They also need exercise, good food, fresh air and time to run and play. Early on, a puppy is much like a new born baby… with lots of energy, very demanding and full of needs.  The puppy must come first, even before your comfort. You must provide for the puppy’s needs, even if you don’t want to, even if it means getting out of your warm bed at 3:00 a.m. to walk the dog. You must be loving, firm and consistent with the dog, even if you are exhausted and want to scream.  

        Dobermans in particular require love, human companionship  and individual attention... and they require room to gallop and play. So, if you live on a typical city lot and are obsessed with the image you are projecting to the neighborhood (i.e. you must have a  H & G home with the attendant chemically treated lawn/carpet) and you value this over the health and fitness of your animals… and your dogs are therefore confined to crate, your garage and/or  small exercise yard… please look elsewhere for a Doberman. For that matter, do everyone a favor (most especially the dog)  and get a stuffed toy.

         Everyone involved in dogs needs a mentor for guidance, someone with years and years of experience, to help you learn how to properly raise and condition a dog (whether it is a pet or a show dog). All dogs (regardless of breed and regardless of age) should be physically fit and healthy every single day of their lives, irrespective of whether they are being shown or are simply beloved pets.  That means you must attend to your dog - every day - for as long as the dog lives. That is a life-time commitment of many years. It means a change in life style,  and it can be a huge inconvenience if you are not accustomed to putting someone (or something)  before your own needs and interests.   

       The care and conditioning of a show dog is even more exacting and takes total discipline and commitment.  Poor exercise, bad diet and the wrong training can ruin any dog, no matter how beautiful or well-bred.  The Great Kafka would have been ruined in the hands of an amateur. A dog can not be ignored and abandoned to a dog-run because the owner has lost interest or does not wish to be inconvenienced by caring for the dog. A Doberman is a dog that bonds to people. It CAN NOT thrive with neglect and loneliness… it must live with its owner and share its owner’s life.  

       If you have never owned a dog before, there is no way you can possibly understand the commitment you are making to a dog.  And, once you purchase a dog, this is not something that you can just change you mind about in a month (or a year) when you have gotten bored or tired of the work and commitment required to own a dog.

      With respect to the Doberman, it is imperative that you have an experienced mentor, both early on to help with ear taping, grooming, training and conditioning… and later, to guide you on how to properly train and present the Doberman in the ring.  No breeder wants to see a dog of their breeding presented incorrectly, or in poor weight or poor condition (with very poor muscle tone). There are more than 1001 wrong ways to train, condition and /or show a dog...   and really only one way to do it right. There are no short-cuts.  You will not learn the right way from a book or from a mediocre teacher/ mentor.

To those buyer outside the United States who are interested in a puppy from Logres, we thank you for your interest,  but you should consider the following: Many who contact us from outside the US reference the fact that American breeders will often not even respond to owners from certain foreign countries.  This is true… and there are reasons. What follows may seem harsh… hopefully the reader is a mature adult, fully capable of hearing the truth. Many American breeders will not send dogs to India and/or  Malaysia. We will tell you bluntly why this is so; American breeders are afraid... we are afraid that the puppy we send will live in a tiny house or apartment, with no yard or exercise area… and that if you get tired of it, the dog will be left on the streets to starve, die of neglect or illness, or worse yet, be eaten.  American breeders are afraid that by selling abroad we lose all control over  the quality of life the puppy will lead.  We are too far removed to be of any assistance  should things go wrong. And things do go wrong in life. Anyone - anywhere -  can have an unforeseen down turn  in life circumstances, which most often impacts the dog first and foremost.    So, we avoid foreigners out of fear…  fear for the well-being of our puppies.  If you want to approach an American breeders, you must be wiling to describe and show the environment you will provide for the dog (and that includes information about diet, exercise and medical care). 

We wish all Doberman fanciers world wide the very best.  Our intention is that years in the future we can point to anyone we've sold a puppy to and say,  "This person  is a Doberman owner / breeder we are proud to call a friend… and proud to recommend to others."