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                     Ch. Logres' Contender
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite).

Owned by Mrs. Tina Lee Nett

and Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Greenwood

Contender won three of the five days shown on the Tarheel in 2008

                                Contender finished at 16 months under Ms. Marilyn Biggs

                                  going  WD/BW for a 4 pt Major at the Bucks County KC

 

                               for more info, click on photo left to go to Contender's page

 

 
 

 

                              

Ch. Logres' Titanium
 
BIS Ch. Brunswig's Cryptonite - Cambria's Irish Rose
whelped March 31, 2004
litter mate to Ch. Logres' Tungsten, Logres' Brentano and  Logres' Brentina (dam of champions)
Titan is a linebred son of
the Greatest Doberman of All Time
photo taken March 23, 2008
 

For more info on Titan click on his hyperlinked photo left  

 

 

           

Ch. Logres' Tungsten
 
BIS Ch. Brunswig's Cryptonite - Cambria's Irish Rose
whelped March 31, 2004
Co-owned by Brenna Spencer and Dr. & Mrs. Greenwood
litter mate to Ch. Logres' Titanium, Logres' Brentano and  Logres' Brentina (dam of champions)
Tungsten is a linebred son of
the Greatest Doberman of All Time
Finished with in four weekend of show, with 3 majors and BOB  from the classes

           For more info on Tungsten click on his hyperlinked photo left 

 

Click here to see VIDEO of Tungsten with one of his new friends  Video

 

 
                   Ch. Logres' Warkant                 
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina*
(*Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite)

Warkant finished at 13 months with four majors  

and four  major Reserves

 

handled by Ms. Kelly Marquis      

For more info on Warkant click on his hyperlinked photo left  

 
 
 
 

 
 
Logres' DeNiro
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite)
whelped July 6, 2007

 owned by Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Greenwood

For more info on DeNiro click on his hyperlinked photo left

 

 

 

 

    

                 

 

Can Ch. Logres' Weihaiwej
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite).
(pronounced Vee-ah-Vay)
owned by Ms. Sheila Summers of Ausleben Reg. 

 http://ca.geocities.com/ausleben@rogers.com

finished in Canada from the puppy class  - pointed in the US 
  Wei is shown in the USA by  Kelly Marquis  

                      for more info, click on photo left to go to Wei's page

     

 


 

Logres' Feinbrand by CH. Trotyl de Black Shadow

 

 

              Logres' Feinbrand
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite).

Owned by Cheryl Burgess, Bob Salvino

and Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Greenwood

                             Vaako wins a major April 11, 2008    

                      Vaako has 10 pts including a major

                         Current show photos pending   

           For more info on Vaako click on his hyperlinked photo left                           

 


 

                                                  

 

 

Logres' Wahajama
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite).
(pronounced Bah-ha-yah-ma)
13 points and both majors at 15 months
 For more info on Wahajama click on her hyperlinked photo left    
 

 


                                                                      

 Can Ch.Logres' Voltaire

Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite)
whelped December 9, 2006
             owned by Tom and Elaine Gravelle   
finished in Canada from the puppy class  
pointed in the USA    

                           Quincy is shown in the USA by  Kelly Marquis  

          for more info on Quincy click on his hyperlinked photo left     

 

 


      

                                  

Logres' Contucci

Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina*
(*Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite)

 

owned by Tracy Daugherty and Jason Alley  http://www.halodoberman.com/ a

and Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Greenwood

owner  handled by Tracy Daugherty

 

6 points all owner handled

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Logres' Halla
Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow - Logres' Brentina
(Brentina is a linebred daughter of BIS CH. Brunswig's Cryptonite)
whelped July 6, 2007

 owned by Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Greenwood

For more info on Halla click on her hyperlinked photo left     

 

 


     

 
                                     Lil' Claire

      by Ch. Logres' Tungsten out of a full sister to Ch. Cambria's Victoria Secret

                                photo at about a year of age

           co-owned by Dr. and Mrs. Greenwood and Tom and Elaine Gravelle

                            shown by Kelly Marquis

 
 

             
                      
                    

 Detailed Data in Pedigree of Trotyl - Brentina Litter

Ch. Trotyl De Black Shadow            DOBEQUEST Pedigree link http://www.dobequest.org/profile.php?DOGID=32700

OFA GOOD

Sire:

Ch. Inaqui de Black Shadow    WS 149854/01 
 

Sire:

Ch. Nello's Lex Luthor
 

Sire:                                              Arg Ch Will Ross Opium
 

Dam:
Nello's Eureka Black

Dam:

Cindi De Black Shadow
 

Sire:                                            Baden Baden Cash
 

Dam:
Aquarius Tootsie v Ravenswd

Dam:

Jessy De Vulcano

 

 

Sire:

Marienburg's Argus Wind Magic
 

Sire
Ch.  Marienburg's Morocco

Dam:
Paola of Wind Magic

Dam

Cora Mia de Vulcano
 

Sire:
Conan v Andur

Dam:
Best Brown of Red Ghost

Logres’ Brentina  OFA GOOD                                     DNA vWD Carrier                                   Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Sire
Ch. Brunswig's Cryptonite

OFA Good


 

Sire
CH Beaulane's The Nite Ryder

 

Sire Ch. Electra's The Windwalker

Dam
CH Beaulane's Nite Moves

Dam
Brunswig's Zephyr

Sire: CH Amulet's Luka of Sno-Glenn CD

Dam
CH Brunswig's Dahlia

Dam
Cambria’s Irish Rose

littermate to                Ch. Cambria's Irish Rebellion  

 

Sire:Sire
CH Cambria's Cavalleria
WP542640-13
OFA Excellent

 

Sire
CH Brunswig's Cryptonite
OFA Good

Dam
CH Cambria's Mauna Kea
OFA Good

Dam
CH Orion's Rasberry Beret
WP840694/02
OFA Good

Sire
CH Cambria's Cactus Cash
OFA Good

Dam
CH Orion's Ultimate Dimension

                Brentina and her littermates:                                          

Ch. Logres’ Tungsten   (red dog)                    OFA EXCELLENT                                       DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Ch. Logres’  Titanium (red dog )                    OFA GOOD                                                  DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Brentano (red dog )                            OFA EXCELLENT                                       DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Brentina (red bitch )                            OFA GOOD                                                 DNA vWD Carrier                                        Mich. St. Thyroid Normal

Logres’ Morgan Le Fay (red bitch)               

Logres' Charisma of Juris (red bitch)            DNA vWD Carrier                                    

Logres’ You're It (fawn dog)  not tested

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With respect to the health testing sometimes seen in stud dog ads, we object to health related data that gives the misleading impression that the data relates to what the stud dog will transmit.  

For example, a normal Holter monitor result of your dog belongs in the context of whether you intend to medicate your dog, NOT in the context of breeding. An asymptomatic dog may still be passing on DCM and to suggest otherwise is misleading and ultimately a disservice to the breed. It’s fine to Holter your dogs, and any data suggesting heritable heart problems should be available to breeders, but a normal / clear Holter result does not say what the stud dog will transmit; asymptomatic dogs can pass on DCM.  Many asymptomatic dogs have gone on to develop DCM and asymptomatic dogs can  transmit DCM (because of incomplete penetrance). 

Let’s say that you have a six year old dog with a normal / clear Holter ... the owner advertises these results... the breeder thinks “Wonderful, no DCM ” and  breeds to the dog.  Then, 6 months later,  the dog dies of DCM. One could make the argument that the advertising is misleading.  Moreover, a two year-old stud dog with a normal or clear Holter is like a teenage boy with a normal PSA (Prostate Specific Antigen) or a colonoscopy on a 20 year old.  Neither the PSA or the colonoscopy will tell you if the boy will develop prostate or colon cancer.

 


OUR policies on selling puppies -  a Doberman is not for everyone.

If you are interested in a Logres puppy from an upcoming Logres litter please contact us at arthurgreenwood@hotmail.com

      Logres is committed to breeding  healthy sound Dobermans of excellent breed type, who exemplify the great attributes of this wonderful breed. Our dogs are happy, loving, confident, athletic ambassadors for the Doberman breed. In  addition to having superb bloodlines, our dogs are generally healthy,  with good substance and bone and strong stable Doberman temperaments.  Though we strive to produce extraordinary quality and would like to see our puppies in the ring, we are not interested in show homes per se.  As with any good breeder, we try to screen puppy buyers to assure the best possible homes for our puppies.   Sometimes we have been successful in finding good homes for our puppies; sometimes we have failed utterly (and excellent dogs have been ruined by the ignorance and/or  arrogance of bad owners).   There is really no sure way to predict with certainty  the quality of life a potential purchaser will provide.    

      However, as a baseline, we will no longer sell to people who “collect dogs”  and/or people who raise their dogs in crates and dog runs.  We prefer owners who focus on one or two dogs at a time and who understand the value of a fit healthy lifestyle for themselves and their dogs. 

      Purchasing a dog is NOT like buying a new television… where all you have to do is pay a sum of money, open a box, plug the T.V. in and it is a “perfect working machine.” 

       Dogs are living creatures.  They require love and attention. They need our time, commitment, guidance, consistency and discipline to thrive. They also need exercise, good food, fresh air and time to run and play. Early on, a puppy is much like a new born baby… with lots of energy, very demanding and full of needs.  The puppy must come first, even before your comfort. You must provide for the puppy’s needs, even if you don’t want to, even if it means getting out of your warm bed at 3:00 a.m. to walk the dog. You must be loving, firm and consistent with the dog, even if you are exhausted and want to scream.  

        Dobermans in particular require love, human companionship  and individual attention... and they require room to gallop and play. So, if you live on a typical city lot and are obsessed with the image you are projecting to the neighborhood (i.e. you must have a  H & G home with the attendant chemically treated lawn/carpet) and you value this over the health and fitness of your animals… and your dogs are therefore confined to crate, your garage and/or  small exercise yard… please look elsewhere for a Doberman. For that matter, do everyone a favor (most especially the dog)  and get a stuffed toy.

         Everyone involved in dogs needs a mentor for guidance, someone with years and years of experience, to help you learn how to properly raise and condition a dog (whether it is a pet or a show dog). All dogs (regardless of breed and regardless of age) should be physically fit and healthy every single day of their lives, irrespective of whether they are being shown or are simply beloved pets.  That means you must attend to your dog - every day - for as long as the dog lives. That is a life-time commitment of many years. It means a change in life style,  and it can be a huge inconvenience if you are not accustomed to putting someone (or something)  before your own needs and interests.   

       The care and conditioning of a show dog is even more exacting and takes total discipline and commitment.  Poor exercise, bad diet and the wrong training can ruin any dog, no matter how beautiful or well-bred.  The Great Kafka would have been ruined in the hands of an amateur. A dog can not be ignored and abandoned to a dog-run because the owner has lost interest or does not wish to be inconvenienced by caring for the dog. A Doberman is a dog that bonds to people. It CAN NOT thrive with neglect and loneliness… it must live with its owner and share its owner’s life.  

       If you have never owned a dog before, there is no way you can possibly understand the commitment you are making to a dog.  And, once you purchase a dog, this is not something that you can just change you mind about in a month (or a year) when you have gotten bored or tired of the work and commitment required to own a dog.

      With respect to the Doberman, it is imperative that you have an experienced mentor, both early on to help with ear taping, grooming, training and conditioning… and later, to guide you on how to properly train and present the Doberman in the ring.  No breeder wants to see a dog of their breeding presented incorrectly, or in poor weight or poor condition (with very poor muscle tone). There are more than 1001 wrong ways to train, condition and /or show a dog...   and really only one way to do it right. There are no short-cuts.  You will not learn the right way from a book or from a mediocre teacher/ mentor.

      We are selective about where we place our puppies. When we decide to place a puppy, we  want to see that the buyer has a proven track record of experience with raising, conditioning and training a healthy, happy, fit Doberman. For show quality puppies, we'd like to see that the buyer has experience raising training and conditioning a successful show Doberman.  And, we want a buyer we can trust to follow through on all aspects of the purchase agreement, which always includes the mandate that - if at any time and for any reason - the buyer desires to place the dog with a third party, the dog must come back to us.  This is NOT negotiable.

Overall, a breeder wants to see a pattern of proven success.  The breeder's worst nightmare is that a good puppy ends up in a home where someone - often someone new to the breed - would say, “Oh, I didn’t realize what I was getting myself into,  this is too much work for me, I didn’t realize that I had to spend so much time to make the dog a great dog… I have lost interest.. I don’t want the dog anymore.”   By then the puppy is ruined. The puppy will pay with it’s life for the ignorance and impulsiveness of the buyer. We intend to avoid such homes.  We select, not based on the size of someone's bank account, but rather based upon their commitment to proved a  healthy, loving, life-long home.  

As a breeder and exhibitor our goal should be to have the best of the best… to show the very best and to breed the very best. Nothing less than the best is acceptable (or even worth our time). And remember, every dog you own and every time you step into the ring reflects back on you. Your reputation is your greatest asset. Never, ever, ever compromise your reputation.  And never present less than the best. The road to excellence is one of commitment, discipline and hard work. There are no short-cuts; success over time is not something you can buy.  

To those buyer outside the United States who are interested in a puppy from Logres, we thank you for your interest,  but you should consider the following: Many who contact us from outside the US reference the fact that American breeders will often not even respond to owners from certain foreign countries.  This is true… and there are reasons. What follows may seem harsh… hopefully the reader is a mature adult, fully capable of hearing the truth. Many American breeders will not send dogs to India and/or  Malaysia. We will tell you bluntly why this is so; American breeders are afraid... we are afraid that the puppy we send will live in a tiny house or apartment, with no yard or exercise area… and that if you get tired of it, the dog will be left on the streets to starve, die of neglect or illness, or worse yet, be eaten.  American breeders are afraid that by selling abroad we lose all control over  the quality of life the puppy will lead.  We are too far removed to be of any assistance  should things go wrong. And things do go wrong in life. Anyo